The Star Wars Thread

[Neonivek]

I don't know who Jake Lloyde is by heart but let me just guess who he is by comments.."Worse then Jar Jar" and "Forced to change channel the second he opened his mouth"...

Hmmm... Was he Anakin? He was pretty dang whiney and all his lines were uttar drech...

I have to say that inspite some people saying the third movie was the best I personally felt it was the worst of them all and the reason is because the plot was by far the worst, being the most contrived thing ever!

The first was ok as a opening to the movies to come without opening up the political aspect. The second raised the stakes giving us not only a grand villain but an entire clone army! The Third throws EVERYTHING away and has to make every single thing on the spot just to link it to episode 4 even going as far as to make people act completely out of character in order to do this.

The problem with the new Starwars movie that I have a feeling of is this

They could make it for youth first. A Starwars for teens is fine, but when people aim for a age group rather then just aiming to make a really good movie... things get fuzzy

Or they will make an amazing Starwars... I have more faith they can pull it off then George could right now.

[Lambonius]

Yes, Jake Lloyd was little boy Anakin.  Possibly one of the worst actors I've ever seen in a film.  Every line sounds like it's being read off a cue card.  Terrible.  Even Hayden Christenson was better.

[Neonivek]

Yes, Jake Lloyd was little boy Anakin.  Possibly one of the worst actors I've ever seen in a film.  Every line sounds like it's being read off a cue card.  Terrible.  Even Hayden Christenson was better.

It almost seems like the prequils suffered from needing to line up with the original trilogy sometimes.

I mean when you think about it Anakin was a bit of a super prodigy... something that the force doesn't give you.

[GrahamRocks!]

I'm not even oing to bother giving my opinion on the prequel trilogy. You wouldn't believe me if I told you.

[Neonivek]

I'm not even oing to bother giving my opinion on the prequel trilogy. You wouldn't believe me if I told you.

Hmmm you love them and think they are better then the originals? Because I've heard that before.

That Jarjar is the greatest character ever made and should have been the star of all three movies? Now THAT would be surprising.

[GrahamRocks!]

Hmmm you love them and think they are better then the originals? Because I've heard that before.

That Jarjar is the greatest character ever made and should have been the star of all three movies? Now THAT would be surprising.

HAHAHAHAHA!!! That made my day, right there.

No, I don't think they're BETTER than the originals, but I do consider them if not on par with the originals, then at least good movies in general. As for Jar-Jar? I like him actually. I REALLY don't see why everybody hates him, and the only person who agrees with me is my music pastor who is a big Star Wars fan himself.

Would I like him to be the star of all thre movies? No, that might be pushing it, even for me. But I don't despise/hate him nearly as much as most people do. It probably has to do with the fact that by the time I got into Star Wars (around late 2004-early 2005, right when Episode III was about to come out), I'd gotten used to characters that many consider "annoying": Jar-Jar Binks, Navi, Tatl, Fi, Scrappy Doo, Short Round, Ash Ketchum, The Gargoyles from Hunchback of Notre Dame, Cedric the Owl, Sid the Sloth, Mater (I LOVED Cars 2, okay?!), heck, I even LIKED Chikorita in my Soulsilver game... and had the exact opposite reaction that everyone else did. I didn't mind them at all.   

[Neonivek]

I don't hate Jarjar either... but it isn't fair because I have the GREATEST annoying character filter ever known to humanity.

[GrahamRocks!]

Oh really? What do you mean?

[Lambonius]

I don't hate JarJar.  I do think George Lucas has a terrible sense of humor that resonates with only maybe 10% of his audience, and that the idea of JarJar acting as a comic relief character falls horribly flat because he simply isn't funny.  But I don't hate him, per se.  He'd be totally fine if he was written a bit better.

I really just can't stand the terrible canned acting, Phantom Menace Anakin being the most stomach-turning example.  

[Neonivek]

Oh really? What do you mean?

You know how there are famosly annoying characters?

I am not annoyed by any of them.

[Rosella]

I'd gotten used to characters that many consider "annoying": Jar-Jar Binks, Navi, Tatl, Fi, Scrappy Doo, Short Round, Ash Ketchum, The Gargoyle from Hunchback of Notre Dame, Sid the Sloth, Mater (I LOVED Cars 2, okay?!), heck, I even LIKED Chikorita in my Soulsilver game... and had the exact opposite reaction that everyone else did. I didn't mind them at all.   

I'm noticing a distinct lack of Cedric.

[Blackthorne]

I feel bad for Jake Lloyd.  He got saddled with that crappy role - and now he has to live into adulthood with that.  He must get harassed about it constantly.  I remember seeing a video on Youtube where someone was interviewing him about it, and he wasn't too happy or friendly about it - and frankly, I don't blame him.

Bt

[inm8#2]

The performance of a 9 year old is on the director, not the child. And if the child wasn't the right pick, that's also on the director and producers.

Not to mention the dialogue he was asked to say. "Are you an angel?" "Yippee!"

Hardly Lloyd's fault. Can't imagine how bad it's been for him to deal with all the ridicule.

[GrahamRocks!]

I'd gotten used to characters that many consider "annoying": Jar-Jar Binks, Navi, Tatl, Fi, Scrappy Doo, Short Round, Ash Ketchum, The Gargoyle from Hunchback of Notre Dame, Sid the Sloth, Mater (I LOVED Cars 2, okay?!), heck, I even LIKED Chikorita in my Soulsilver game... and had the exact opposite reaction that everyone else did. I didn't mind them at all.   

I'm noticing a distinct lack of Cedric.

Fixed.

[Blackthorne]

The performance of a 9 year old is on the director, not the child. And if the child wasn't the right pick, that's also on the director and producers.

Not to mention the dialogue he was asked to say. "Are you an angel?" "Yippee!"

Hardly Lloyd's fault. Can't imagine how bad it's been for him to deal with all the ridicule.

Yeah, exactly - it's on the director and producers.  Unfortunately, you get the overly enthusiastic Star Wars fans who blame HIM, and still give that poor guy crap about it today.

The Phantom Menace is a turkey for a few reasons - and Lloyd's character and performance is one of them.  There's some moments I really enjoy in that flick - but the presence of Anakin Skywalker in that movie is severely underwhelming.

Bt

[KatieHal]

I remember hearing that Natalie Portman had made some comment about the material not quite being Shakespeare in those movies. And yep, spot on there, ma'am!

[MikPal]

I remember hearing that Natalie Portman had made some comment about the material not quite being Shakespeare in those movies. And yep, spot on there, ma'am!

And thank goodnes it wasn't.

[inm8#2]

One of the more interesting stories I've read is that Hayden Christensen received the Attack of the Clones script only about two weeks before filming began. After reading it he confessed to close friends and family, "I'm f***ed."

Really, the prequels are full of bad performances other than Ewan McGregor. It shows how important good directing and writing are. People often forget about those two components and their critical part of a performance.

Natalie Portman practically sleepwalks through the trilogy. It's like she told herself, "Dialogue is terrible, George doesn't care, I'm just going to do this and be done with it." Samuel L. Jackson's acting is even worse, yet he's one of the better actors in the last 20 years.

[Neonivek]

Well sometimes the reason why actors are often lifeless is because the dirrector is often asking for exactly that.

It is a shame when people blame the actor when the dirrector asked for that performance. Mind you I don't know whos fault it is in this case.

[Lambonius]

Steven Spielburg is guilty of the same thing with various performances in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, particularly Harrison Ford's performances.  Ford is good for most of the film, but his first few scenes are really painful.  The way he delivers lines like "You're not from around here, are you?" in the film's prologue are just awful.