The 'guys lurving the girls'-thread

[Jeysie]

You know, I'm a little worried as to WHAT exactly CC's co-workers are basing their "adorable" statement on.

And... while all this bantering has been amusing, I think I'll just be straight out now and state that I'm afraid I'm going to have to render my apologies to Grundy (and Jael, Racx, and Spikey for that matter) and say that the Australian soil will not be cursed with my presence.

Peace & Luv, Liz

[Grundy]

Australian soil welcomes all, Jeysie.  

Come and visit this unspoiled land, experience the culture, the crazy aussie humor, me, some of the worlds best wine produced at our wineries, it's TOP CLASS all the way baby!

[Say]

hahahahaha,   andy

[Jeysie]

Australian soil welcomes all, Jeysie.  

I'm sure it does... but I'm still not vacationing overseas. If I'm going to be an ignorant American, I'd rather be one in my own backyard. Or maybe Canada, which is sort of that really interesting place just over the horizon, in analogy terms.

Peace & Luv, Liz

[Jael]

Australian soil welcomes all, Jeysie.  

Except when we don't, of course (*coughtampacough* )

Come and visit this unspoiled land, experience the culture, the crazy aussie humor,

Holy Heck! We have culture and a sense of humour?! Where have I been?!

some of the worlds best wine produced at our wineries, it's TOP CLASS all the way baby!

That, naturally, I can't disagree with. Mmmmmmm, alcohol

[Grundy]

Australian soil welcomes all, Jeysie.  

Except when we don't, of course (*coughtampacough* )

Come and visit this unspoiled land, experience the culture, the crazy aussie humor,

Holy Heck! We have culture and a sense of humour?! Where have I been?!

some of the worlds best wine produced at our wineries, it's TOP CLASS all the way baby!

That, naturally, I can't disagree with. Mmmmmmm, alcohol

Tampa wasn't an Australian decision...
It was a JOHNNY FREAKIN HOWARD DECISION! ARGhhh!!  
Not voting for him this coming election!

Otherwise...
Have you traveled outside of Australia? Because if you have, you would easily recognise our unique culture down here.
Compared to Europe and America, we have something special, relaxed and safe... Even though I loved Europe while I was there, I missed Australia sooooo much!
Our beautiful cigarette-free air, vivid blue skies ( The sky in Europe is very pale blue on most days, very bland. ), gun-free country, low unemployment... Great local food and alcohols...  
Can't go wrong down here!

[Jael]

*Moves for a motion to throw Howard overboard* Though, that might not be enough of a scandal for them

I've done a bit of overseas travelling, but not much - USA mostly. As much as I make fun of Aus, really, I love it with a passion. I can't think of one single place I'd rather live. I think we do have that something truly unique that I love. And if Aus is smoke-free compared to Europe, I don't think I'm too keen on visiting . I can't stand even being near someone who's smoking on the street or at a bus-stop. Especially those vile cigars *gags*

[Grundy]

The Germans especially have no idea of the concept of 'Non-Smoking'.
It's absolutely painful, you can't breathe at all!  


Think about it, only about 5-10% of aussies smoke now... and we are one of the most healthy countries in the world regarding cigarettes.
Now, Germany, 60% of teenagers alone smoke!  

You just can't escape it! When I came home, it was the first thing i noticed, no smoke... and I can actually still count how many I've smelt since returning almost 6 months ago.

[Yonkey]

They've recently made an No Smoking bylaw in Canada (or maybe it's just Ontario).  You're now not allowed to smoke inside a public building, and are only permitted to in designated smoking areas.  

It probably did some damage to bars, but as a non-smoker, I love going out and not reaking of cigarette smoke when I get back.  

[Yonkey]

Hehe, well most bars & pubs have outdoor patios, so smokers should be going there if they want to smoke anyway.  They're just fussing because it's "inconvenient" for them, especially in the Winter!

I went to a club a few weeks ago where the top floor was like a smoking area.  It had its own bartender, 4 windows, couches and a doorway to a platform leading outside too.  It was really nice, even being a non-smoker there, the air was clean and cool.  

[Yonkey]

Whoa!  You didn't have to risk your life, just put the window up and cut the guy off!

[J-ROC]

Neil:  That bylaw is in Ontario only, even though there are several provinces and/or municipalities following suit.  Edmonton is looking to have a similar plan.  Calgary, you can still smoke in pubs/bars, but you CANNOT smoke on the pub/bar patio.  How messed up is that?  
It's really weird watching your friends go nab a table inside for a cancer-stick. Especially if you have smokers walking by on the sidewalk.

[Jeysie]

Apparently they just passed a no-smoking law here in MA to ban smoking in all malls, restaurants, bars, stores, offices, etc. I think it used to be a choice on the part of the owner before (most owners already did so, anyway).

I just wish they'd pass a law against smoking in public places *period*. I hate it when I get stuck having to wait at the bus station, because it seems like 75% of the people outside at the "dock" waiting for the bus are smoking. (There's no smoking inside the station, but obviously that does jack for when the bus is about to arrive and you have to be there waiting to board it!) I hate it.

I'm not usually the sort of person to force people to take care of themselves... I have sort of a general "Hey, if you want to harm yourself, it's your choice." attitude. Unfortunately, when you smoke, you end up poisoning everyone else around you, too. Now, if they could invent a way to make it so that smokers are the only ones inhaling their smoke, I'd say, sure, let them smoke wherever they want.

But when *I'm* also forced to breathe in their smoke, that's a whole other ball of wax. And when it's allowed at places like outside the public bus terminal, it's sometimes impossible to get away from.

Peace & Luv, Liz

[Yonkey]

Calgary, you can still smoke in pubs/bars, but you CANNOT smoke on the pub/bar patio.  How messed up is that?  

Hehe, nah that makes sense cuz it would be disgusting for people walking by.  Actually now that I think of it, there are probably certain areas of patios reserved for smokers too, because whenever I walked through the market area in Ottawa it was rare that I'd ever see (or smell) people's smoke.

[Grundy]

Whoa!  You didn't have to risk your life, just put the window up and cut the guy off!

Read my post again...
I was walking.

Maybe you have Super Jacket Wind-up-Windows that roll out of your sleves, but I sure dont!

[Yonkey]

LOL!    You ran into oncoming traffic?  

[Grundy]

The way the intersection is setup, I was able to safely cross the road, even though I didn't have the green men telling me I could.  

I was dramatising my escape from the evil cigerette man!  

[Yonkey]

I figured that much from the little green men talking to you.  

[Louisiana Night]

Otherwise...
Have you traveled outside of Australia? Because if you have, you would easily recognise our unique culture down here.
Compared to Europe and America, we have something special, relaxed and safe... Even though I loved Europe while I was there, I missed Australia sooooo much!
Our beautiful cigarette-free air, vivid blue skies ( The sky in Europe is very pale blue on most days, very bland. ), gun-free country, low unemployment... Great local food and alcohols...  
Can't go wrong down here!

Where have you been in the US(or are you referring to something else)?
Clean air, depends on where you are.
Blue skies, again, depends on where you are
Gun free, depends on where you are.(if you're worried about guns, keep out of the Southern US)
Low unemployment, depends on where you are.
Great local food, I've heard the food isn't great in the northern US(on average), but where I'm from, it's great. As far as the rest of the US goes, I have no idea.
Unique culture? Ever been to Hawaii, Alaska, Louisiana,  Texas, California, Oklahoma, or New England?

[Grundy]

Otherwise...
Have you traveled outside of Australia? Because if you have, you would easily recognise our unique culture down here.
Compared to Europe and America, we have something special, relaxed and safe... Even though I loved Europe while I was there, I missed Australia sooooo much!
Our beautiful cigarette-free air, vivid blue skies ( The sky in Europe is very pale blue on most days, very bland. ), gun-free country, low unemployment... Great local food and alcohols...  
Can't go wrong down here!

Where have you been in the US(or are you referring to something else)?
Clean air, depends on where you are.
Blue skies, again, depends on where you are
Gun free, depends on where you are.(if you're worried about guns, keep out of the Southern US)
Low unemployment, depends on where you are.
Great local food, I've heard the food isn't great in the northern US(on average), but where I'm from, it's great. As far as the rest of the US goes, I have no idea.
Unique culture? Ever been to Hawaii, Alaska, Louisiana,  Texas, California, Oklahoma, or New England?

I've been to LA, Florida, NYC, Cleavland... ( Spelt correctly? )

I'm not worried about guns, but that's because I live in a country where it's not a problem.
( Bowling for Columbine - "Australia 63 Gun Deaths, USA 11,150 per year." )

Low unemployment, well, I didn't say it was a problem in the US, I just said that WE are doing pretty well.  

For food and wine, Australia now outsells French wines in Britain and the US...  ANd our local produce is top quality, we export beef and sheep etc to the US, Japan, England... goto your local supermarket and you will probably find Australian meats there.

Also, I never said the US didn't have a culture, I just said WE have a unique and special one.
If you want to compare, we are a mix of european/americanised culture, minus a lot of the downsides from those two.  


EDIT:
Also, I think I'm well traveled enough to have a valid opinion on the topic.
I was born in England afterall, lived there for a few years, spent most of my life here in Australia.
Liveed in Europe for a few months going from France/Switzerland/Austria/Germany/Netherlands/Belgium...   Gone through the US to those few places I mentioned and I have visited many asian cities too.