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KQ3+ Suggestions
« on: March 03, 2004, 10:27:29 AM »
Is AGDI going to remake KQ3 or 4 after QfG2? Cuz if they dont that whole "Father" plot thread is just going to fall through the cracks.... ;P
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Re:We need to bring back.....
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2004, 06:32:07 PM »
i heard they were going to remake KQ3 after their current project ;)
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Re:We need to bring back.....
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2004, 06:49:45 PM »
I believe they haven't said anything about what they might do after QFG 2; there is a group remaking KQ4 in VGA, some members of AGDI's forums, but I don't recall their name of have the link handy...Storm posted it not too long ago, I believe! Err,...somwhere!

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Re:We need to bring back.....
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2004, 07:24:38 PM »
i thought when i was looking through AGDI's site that i found info on what they were making next ???

Oh well, we'll have to wait and see
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Re:We need to bring back.....
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2004, 11:21:00 PM »
Right now, the only thing they are working on is QFG2.  They've said many times they have NO definate plans afterward at this point.  No one knows, except maybe them (and I'm not even sure they've made a decision).  it might be KQ3, another game, or maybe an original game.  We'll have to wait and see.

There is somemone in progress of KQ4 though, can't recall who it is though, if if they're still working on it.
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2004, 05:57:23 AM »
here is a link to the kq4 remake site:
http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/spongefactory/

there are some screenshots e.d. Don't know if there is a lot of progress though
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2004, 12:45:55 AM »
o well QFG2 will be good ;D
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2004, 11:43:18 AM »
here is a link to the kq4 remake site:
http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/spongefactory/

there are some screenshots e.d. Don't know if there is a lot of progress though

Yep, that's Muzlak's project  ;)
Frankly, I'm not holding my breath for it - that guy said he's writing his own engine (though I can't fathom why, AGS looks just fine for what he's doing), and he's working on some other games as well. It looks like he's experimenting with game making rather than trying to get something completed  :-\

At any rate, even if that KQ4 remake is completed, it would probably just stick to the original plotline, and since it's not an AGDI game, it wouldn't continue what they started with "The Father" in KQ2+  ::)
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2004, 03:35:51 AM »
AGDI are good at what they do so ill stick to there remakes XB
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Re:We need to bring back.....
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2004, 01:24:13 PM »
I agree, I relayed liked KQII+ (or so some have called it). It was great fun to play and the story had some nice depth. I wasn't too wild about some of the cut scenes (close-up’s of Graham) but that’s personal taste.

It’s odd because I’d like to see KQ III and IV be developed by them but I know it would be better for them to start developing their own property and do something they can ultimately market seriously!  !!!
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2004, 05:26:45 PM »
IIRC, AGDI said they will eventually make original games, but as another company under a different title - http://www.himalayastudios.com/. The site isn't updated - guess they're too busy with the QFG2 remake  8)
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Re:We need to bring back.....
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2004, 03:32:49 PM »
I dont know... I just think it's a little more than silly to start a major plot thread, then abandon it. Must be the writer in me coming out...  ::)

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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2004, 08:01:07 PM »
Here's the deal on the Father, I remember reading this on the boards:
The Father was a device used to set up all the other plots in the KQ series.  This was specifically so he did not *need* to be used in later ones, but so that he could if they decided to make their own KQ sequel.  

As for what AGDI makes after QfG2 VGA, they keep saying they haven't decided.  Sure, KQ3 is one a lot of people are asking for, but if they remade something that was not a KQ or even in the Fantasy genre, it would bring more people in the Adventure gaming genre, and since that is part of their goal.....
It's looking like KQ3 may not become VGA for a while.


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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2004, 08:00:57 PM »
Yeah, I think AGDI can only do so many fan remakes before they get tired of it and begin making their own (commercial) games. Should that happen before they remake KQ3, I hope they would give someone else the "rights" to remake a KQ3 that continues the KQ2+ plotline - AFAIK the KQ2+ plotwriter already has a pretty much finish plot for a KQ3 remake, and I'm sure everyone who played KQ2+ would want to see that  ;)
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Re:We need to bring back.....
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2004, 07:55:38 AM »
Technically, anyone at all can make their own game and remake KQ3's storyline and even take their own stab at who they think the Father is. It's just that asking would be a nicer way of doing things ;-)  I'd like to see KQ3 remade with more plot & detail as well, it's got great potential as is for something like that, Father or no Father!

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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2004, 09:27:24 AM »
KQ3's always ranked right up there with my favorite King's Quests.  I loved the plot.  But now, being older and wiser, there's more that they could do with it.  The bandits had some unused plot potential.  There should've been *something* more in the desert.  It should not have been possible to dispose of Mananan after his very first journey...makes the game *waay* too short.  There should've been more of Daventry.
But I don't see how the Father could be worked into that particular King's Quest real well.  Where could he be fit in?  After the return of Rosella and Alexander?  That's right when KQ4 starts though!  AAGH!  I can't think of where to put the Father!!!


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Re:We need to bring back.....
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2004, 09:56:07 AM »
The desert was fairly useless, and the bandits were interesting but again undeveloped, agreed.

Well, heck, the Father wouldn't even have to be in it!!  On its own, KQ3 could get developed further, have more of a town (hence a reason for bandits) and some more funky stuff going on in the desert and all.

Ohhh...stop making me think of cool stuff! I've got enough to do with making a game as it is! Hahah,  ;-D

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« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2004, 10:19:43 AM »
Technically, anyone at all can make their own game and remake KQ3's storyline and even take their own stab at who they think the Father is. It's just that asking would be a nicer way of doing things ;-)

Sure, anyone could do a KQ3 remake with a plotline that relys on AGDI's KQ3, there is very little AGDI could do against that. But I think most KQ2+ fans would want to see what the original author had in mind :)
And if AGDI decide they're never going to make KQ3+, I don't see why they'll refuse to let someone else do it  ;)
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« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2004, 11:21:34 AM »
I've only played KQ2+ about twelve times, I had *no* idea that the Father showed up there! ::)
I'm sorry, forgive me almight Storm!!
I meant, since you're playing as Alex, where would the Father show up?  Clearly, that scene won't work since Alex is swimming off the the coast at the time (ever killed yourself there?  Wooo fun!  And then you find out how absolutely pointless it was!)
This is exciting me!!!  I don't have any specific ideas, though.  Does anyone else?  Should we make a thread for KQ3 ideas in another section so as to be *remotely* on topic?


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« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2004, 01:46:33 PM »
I had a "KQ3+ suggestions" thread on the AGDI forum a while back... anyways we're not so far off-topic, we're still sorta discussing the KQ2+ plotline. Plus Yonkey could just split this thread if he decides it's too off-topic  :)

In KQ3+, there could be cutscenes Alexander isn't a part of (like the Hagatha/Father scene in KQ2+ or the Alhazrad/Shamir scenes in KQ6).
There could also a scene with Alex confronting The Father, after he defeats the dragon and foils his evil plan  ;)
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