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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2010, 06:37:28 AM »
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"It is? Is that from the Companion? I don't remember hearing about that in the game.
The main issue is that the Desert is remote and closed off from the rest of Etheria/northern Eldritch. It once was open to main kingdom, but Malicia closed it off (Colin or Roo Rat mentions this I think). The civilization that once lived there died out untold centuries before. There are like two other "people" living there (Roo Rat and Jackalope), but its mostly abandoned.

The ghost Colin Farwalker had traveled to the desert from afar too, he gives the impression that his journey may have been somewhere other than the Realm of Eldritch proper, but still part of that world. He died because Malicia shut the path into lands beyond the mountains.

You also can't travel very far in the desert without dieing. The lands stretch pretty far south.

That being said the Rainbow paths of Etheria do reach the desert, the former civilization portion.

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Well, obviously the Vulcanix Underground would be fine; its underground, whereas the lava flow would be above ground. And as you said, the residents of Ooga Booga were all dead anyway, so what do they care? But to me it seems as if what you see in KQ7 is pretty much all of Eldrich, with the exception of a few places in Etheria that you don't go (like Oberon and Titania's castle).
But then again, I haven't read the Companion, so it's possible that I'm missing information that would change my perspective.
Well, you can't actually travel very far west,  or east, or north. The woods get too thick to the east (and north towards Falderal), and there are boundaries to the west of Ooga Booga. but you can tell they the world does stretch on further past those regions proper. Nonsense-Land apparently stretches a bit further north, but you are stuck within the walls of the main city, Falderal proper.

However there is enough to see in the distance to see that desert stretches endlessly (at least as far as player is concerned) as does the great boundary mountain between the desert and the Bountiful Woods. Their are regions beyond main Ooga Booga proper, and behind the city of Falderal, the Bountiful Woods and the Were-Woods, it doesn't just come to an "End of the World" where you'd drop off the edge (at least from what we can see). More less leads to the Unknown, :). I don't think if you head directly north you would end up back at the desert in just a few miles. You certainly can't see such a thing in the distance.

A few areas are unclear, we have no idea how large the swamp is for example. But Ooga Booga is almost directly north. The south probably brushes up against the barrier mountains at some point. We are only shown one screen of the Were-Woods.

Even Daventry is a big world, there are places in the "unknown" regions where other lands and possibly continents are located. We may never know the full extent of the world ;). Some of the world appears flat with edges to fall off of, but other places hint that much of the world follows the globe world concept as well. There are apparently places that touch multiple realities accross the multiverse. Like the city of Tanalore.
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Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2010, 06:09:40 PM »
That being said the Rainbow paths of Etheria do reach the desert, the former civilization portion.
Yeah, that's why I figured that it was still part of Eldritch and governed by Etheria (not that there's much to govern by the time you get there).

Now that I've thought about this a little more, I remember that, as you said, Malicia was aiming to take over Etheria. I knew she wasn't suicidal though; I figured she would hide out in the Vulcanix Underground until the lava flow subsided.
Sorry about reposting half of what you wrote; I don't know how I forgot to erase all of that before hitting reply. :P
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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2010, 11:50:01 AM »
I must find the pond that leads to Daventry!

Is that the reason you're going to use when people see you jumping into a pond, getting back out and then finding another one to jump into?
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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2010, 12:16:47 PM »
If its anything like the ponds between worlds in the Narnia books you'll need a special ring to be able to travel between worlds, ;).
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2010, 01:54:16 PM »
I must find the pond that leads to Daventry!

Is that the reason you're going to use when people see you jumping into a pond, getting back out and then finding another one to jump into?

Nah, I shouldn't need to jump into too many ponds. There should be a Daventry related image of sort in the pond, right? Like Rosella saw a castle in the clouds in the pond...
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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2010, 09:47:55 PM »
Just keep your eye out for those dragonettes. They mark the really good interworld portals. :)
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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2010, 10:59:38 PM »
Just be careful you aren't turned into a troll.
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2010, 04:07:48 PM »
Just be careful you aren't turned into a troll.

Or dropped into a barren desert with an annoying... jackalope, was it?

I'd much rather land in the Bountiful Woods or Etheria.
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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2010, 04:44:45 PM »
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I'd much rather land in the Bountiful Woods or Etheria.
Just hope you aren't accidently dropped into Were-Woods, or a giant spider web ;), or into empty air in Etheria (it would be a long fall).

You also don't have the benefit of cartoon abilities (letting you be flattened, crushed, etc, without being injured much). Ya, there were a few cases where the characters in KQ7 would be affected as if a cartoon (without dieing). Note for example how Valanice fell into the desert. That would kill most people.

Although perhaps that's just one of the physical properties of etheria, being turned into a cartoon, and being able to do things that would cause injuries to most people. I think that's one of the reasons Derek had a hard time believing the story (of KQ7), because things didn't match up with how he understands physical reality.
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Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2010, 05:27:21 PM »
Although perhaps that's just one of the physical properties of etheria, being turned into a cartoon, and being able to do things that would cause injuries to most people. I think that's one of the reasons Derek had a hard time believing the story (of KQ7), because things didn't match up with how he understands physical reality.

Huh, I never thought of it that way. It would explain quite a bit.

Ooh, and shattering the Mask makes everybody use Old English!
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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2010, 05:36:10 PM »
Technically Graham was speaking Old English before the shattering of the mask :p...
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2010, 09:36:08 PM »
Well yeah, technically. But not quite so much, from what I remember.

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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2010, 09:54:08 PM »
Actually Graham's few comments are before the mask is shattered. He may have one sentence after it is shattered, just before he's turned to stone, and then he doesn't say much at all ;).

Actually there are hardly any human characters that continue to talk while the mask is shattered.  :suffer: :suffer: :suffer:

Connor talks the same before and after the shattered mask. He just tends to say "tis beyond my reach" a bit more ;).
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2010, 08:27:31 AM »
Okay, well maybe the Mask... sensed the danger of Lucreto and... made everybody use Old English?

Nah, I guess that's just one of those weird things they did to MoE that we just have to live with.
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