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Daventry, Etheria?
« on: June 29, 2010, 11:12:43 PM »
I was wondering if we'll see Daventry and/or Etheria at all in TSL?

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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2010, 11:17:22 PM »
There used to be a screenie of Graham walking through Etheria, and it was beautiful!  So yes, I'm pretty sure Etheria will show up.  And there was also a sound clip of Alexander talking to Connor's wife about what was happening in Daventry, and it sounded like he was actually IN Daventry at the time.  But I remember Cesar saying that one didn't make the final cut.  So Etheria?  Pretty sure.  Daventry?  Hmmm. I suppose we'll just get a :suffer: if we ask one of the big guys.  :P
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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2010, 08:21:14 AM »
And for Etheria, I think the three fates are shown for a moment in the new trailer, so it seems very likely that it'll be showing up.

If it was Alexander talking to Sarah, then it was probably from one of those huge chunks that got cut out... you know, like the whole parts where Alexander and Rosella would be playable.

But I'm not mad about it, or anything. They say the story is much tighter now, with less downtime. So that's good.
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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2010, 04:21:45 PM »
And for Etheria, I think the three fates are shown for a moment in the new trailer, so it seems very likely that it'll be showing up.

If it was Alexander talking to Sarah, then it was probably from one of those huge chunks that got cut out... you know, like the whole parts where Alexander and Rosella would be playable.

But I'm not mad about it, or anything. They say the story is much tighter now, with less downtime. So that's good.

so, we only play king graham now?

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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2010, 04:25:01 PM »
Yep.

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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2010, 04:31:06 PM »
I'm curious if they are going to take the route of the official lore that Eldritch/Etheria is on another plane of the multiverse. Or if they are going to go with their early concept idea of Eldritch being another continent/land on the world of Daventry.
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Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2010, 04:35:08 PM »
Do we get to go to the Volcanix Underground too?

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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2010, 04:39:40 PM »
I think that if we go anywhere in Eldritch, it'll probably just be Etheria.
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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2010, 04:53:46 PM »
I always get them mixed up. Is Eldritch everything in KQ7 and Etheria the castles in the sky? ???

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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2010, 04:55:07 PM »
Eldritch is the parrallel universe. It includes the Desert, Falderal, Ooga Booga, Vulcanic Underground, Etheria, etc. Etheria is the land in the sky.
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2010, 05:00:46 PM »
Cool, maybe now I'll actually keep it straight in my head for once. :P

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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2010, 05:37:38 PM »
I think it was first edition manual for the game that even mentioned the "universe of Eldritch" and kingdom of Etheria... But I think that section of the manual was cut in the later editions/bargain released editions.
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2010, 08:31:51 PM »
It would have been pretty cool to have a few original voice overs like Maureen Mcverry and Carol Bach Y Rita...just a thought.

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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2010, 08:35:13 PM »
Is it supposed to be another universe? I always just thought of it as another faraway land somewhere in the same world as Daventry.

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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2010, 08:47:37 PM »
Eldritch is in another part of the multiverse, according to the Companion. Though, apparently, all you need to travel between universes is a pond and some weird seahorse thing...

I must find the pond that leads to Daventry!
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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2010, 09:17:36 PM »
I think it was first edition manual for the game that even mentioned the "universe of Eldritch" and kingdom of Etheria... But I think that section of the manual was cut in the later editions/bargain released editions.
The game itself references it vaguely. Someone (Malicia, maybe?) mentions that the eruption of the volcano would cover the entire realm of Eldritch in molten lava.
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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2010, 09:37:22 PM »
Ahh--I guess that comes down to how you interpret 'realm' then. I took it to mean, "This whole kingdom is called Eldritch (thus, the word 'realm' can be used as well), and the various lands within it include the Underground, Ooga Booga, Etheria, etc."

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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2010, 09:46:15 PM »
Ahh--I guess that comes down to how you interpret 'realm' then. I took it to mean, "This whole kingdom is called Eldritch (thus, the word 'realm' can be used as well), and the various lands within it include the Underground, Ooga Booga, Etheria, etc."
Yes, that's how I understood it as well.
It's like the area I live in. It's called Hampton Roads, but it includes seven different cities: Portsmouth, Chesapeake, Virginia Beach, Suffolk, Norfolk, Newport News and Hampton. Put into King's Quest terms, you could call it the Realm of Hampton Roads.
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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2010, 03:50:06 AM »
Well that's where it kind of gets tricky the Desert is out of the Jurisdiction of Etheria. Whereas all the other lands hold feality to Etheria in some ways.

But all of those lands are part of Eldritch.

There may even be two definitions of Eldritch going on, the kingdom/realm and the universe but this is unclear (although its hinted at even in the Companion). Just in the same way that Realm of Daventry is another name for Kingdom of Daventry, but not the entire world of Daventry.

I also have a hard time believing that when they were worried about the Volcano that it would have destroyed every part of the world of Eldritch. It would have at least caused trouble for the Land of the Clouds, Etheria, which is directly above it, plus all the areas extending to the ancient ruins in the northern part of the Desert (the Kangeroo Rat was worried), and most of the lands in Etheria's jurisdiction. Get far enough south and I doubt it would have caused much problem at all. It might not have even bothered the Vulcanix Underground much. Some of the people in Ooga Booga weren't worried to much (they are already dead).

I also don't think Malicia was suicidal, she just wanted to destroy the kingdom, so she could then take over, and rebuild it as her own.

On a related note King Graham's cut comment in the game files also touches on the fact that Etheria was in an alternate universe. From his perspective they had only been missing about 15 minutes of Daventry time, whereas they were in Etheria for at least a day or two. Time runs differently between both worlds (similar to the difference between Narnia and Earth).

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I must find the pond that leads to Daventry!
Be warned that apparently the paths to Daventry are one way ;). Once you go there, there is no way back. There are also different ways to "withdrawal" to the world. Most require magic of some sort. You could partially visit it through dreams ;).

For anyone wanting more information of the realm of Daventry and the maps chronicling changes due to magical flux, check out; http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/Daventry

There was never a map for the world of Eldritch unfortunately (unless there is one in the official KQ7 Authorized guide).

Also depending on which backstory you follow Daventry is either Earth in the distant past or parallel to the "Other World" (Earth). The games pretty much strictly followed the whole earth in the distant past storyline, the companion followed the alternate universe storyline. of course both could be true if time travel is involved :p...
http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/On_the_Origin_of_Daventry

http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/Multiverse

http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/Earth

http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/Other_World

http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/Jupiter

http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/Withdrawal
« Last Edit: July 01, 2010, 06:28:02 AM by Baggins »
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Daventry, Etheria?
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2010, 06:29:28 AM »
Well that's where it kind of gets tricky the Desert is out of the Jurisdiction of Etheria.
It is? Is that from the Companion? I don't remember hearing about that in the game.
I also have a hard time believing that when they were worried about the Volcano that it would have destroyed every part of the world of Eldritch. It would have at least caused trouble for the Land of the Clouds, Etheria, which is directly above it, plus all the areas extending to the ancient ruins in the northern part of the Desert (the Kangeroo Rat was worried), and most of the lands in Etheria's jurisdiction. Get far enough south and I doubt it would have caused much problem at all. It might not have even bothered the Vulcanix Underground much. Some of the people in Ooga Booga weren't worried to much (they are already dead).
Well, obviously the Vulcanix Underground would be fine; its underground, whereas the lava flow would be above ground. And as you said, the residents of Ooga Booga were all dead anyway, so what do they care? But to me it seems as if what you see in KQ7 is pretty much all of Eldrich, with the exception of a few places in Etheria that you don't go (like Oberon and Titania's castle).
But then again, I haven't read the Companion, so it's possible that I'm missing information that would change my perspective.

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« Last Edit: July 01, 2010, 06:06:02 PM by Enchantermon »
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