The Episode 2 Death Documentation Thread!!

[Enchantermon]

The strangest death I've seen so far is:

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reaching your hand into the alcove that holds the key in the garden. Graham gets his hand stuck and perishes from lack of nourishment. Or possibly dies from boredom. I haven't exactly analyzed it yet.

I managed to avoid every death in Episode 2 (a rarity for me in adventure games) except that one. I thought

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that the hole was a black purse hanging on the wall, so I didn't think twice about trying to grab it after I killed the vines. Which is why you always use the eye on things before touching them.

Pretty amusing death, though.

[dark-daventry]

The strangest death I've seen so far is:

Spoiler (mouse over to reveal):

reaching your hand into the alcove that holds the key in the garden. Graham gets his hand stuck and perishes from lack of nourishment. Or possibly dies from boredom. I haven't exactly analyzed it yet.

I managed to avoid every death in Episode 2 (a rarity for me in adventure games) except that one. I thought

Spoiler (mouse over to reveal):

that the hole was a black purse hanging on the wall, so I didn't think twice about trying to grab it after I killed the vines. Which is why you always use the eye on things before touching them.

Pretty amusing death, though.

Sierra is known for putting amusing deaths in their games, and I think that the whole team has done a rather excellent job of preserving that quality.

[Enchantermon]

Agreed!
You know, there's something that's been bothering me for a little while. At the Isle of the Sacred Mountain, Graham dives into the water and swims to the beach. In KQ6, however, if you try to walk out the same distance that he swims, you get caught in the currents and drown. What's with that?

[kindofdoon]

The currents in the ocean are always changing depending on the season and other meteorological factors.

[dark-daventry]

Agreed!
You know, there's something that's been bothering me for a little while. At the Isle of the Sacred Mountain, Graham dives into the water and swims to the beach. In KQ6, however, if you try to walk out the same distance that he swims, you get caught in the currents and drown. What's with that?

Well, several things could have changed. For one, time has passed between the two games. Perhaps the seas just didn't like Alexander that particular day? Or perhaps it was part of some ancient magic spell that was cast that anyone not given express permission from the crown would die in the water or something. It is entirely possible that Shamir made the waters unpassable for Alexander. Besides, the ferry was dry-docked (I can't actually remember why. I want to say it was because the water got too rough, but it's been quite a long time since I've actually played the game...) In any case, the explanations are numerous. Whether the game itself (or any of the promotional material) has an explanation is something I obviously can't tell you... You'll just have to wait and see... And by that, I mean I honestly have NO idea if there's any official explanation.

[tessspoon]

Wasn't there a many-paged discussion about this awhile ago?

[dark-daventry]

I believe so. I just don't remember where it wandered off to...

[Enchantermon]

The currents in the ocean are always changing depending on the season and other meteorological factors.

Well, several things could have changed. For one, time has passed between the two games. Perhaps the seas just didn't like Alexander that particular day? Or perhaps it was part of some ancient magic spell that was cast that anyone not given express permission from the crown would die in the water or something.

Perhaps, but the only problem with that theory is that in TSL, Graham does die if he jumps off the dock on the Isle of the Crown, just like Alexander does. And if he walks into the water off the shore of the Isle of Wonder, he's also grabbed by the current and drowned.

Besides, the ferry was dry-docked (I can't actually remember why. I want to say it was because the water got too rough, but it's been quite a long time since I've actually played the game...)

That's because it became too dangerous to travel when the islands started feuding. Alhazred ordered the dry dock.

[KatieHal]

LOL, there was a shockingly long discussion of it before, yes. The answer is the current is as strong and swift as the plot demands.

[Enchantermon]

Gotcha.

[kindofdoon]

LOL, there was a shockingly long discussion of it before, yes. The answer is the current is as strong and swift as the plot demands.

Haha, I like that answer.

[dark-daventry]

LOL, there was a shockingly long discussion of it before, yes. The answer is the current is as strong and swift as the plot demands.

Haha, I like that answer.

What you said lol

[Cez]

Graham is a better swimmer!

I tell you, that Alexander was dumb....

You can't certainly blame him though. The only place where he could swim was in the chicken's water bucket!

Which reminds me... didn't he swim a ridiculously long distance in KQ3 or am I mixing my Sierra games? If he did... where the hell did he learn to swim? I can't imagine Manannan taking him for long walks on the beach

[dark-daventry]

Graham is a better swimmer!

I tell you, that Alexander was dumb....

You can't certainly blame him though. The only place where he could swim was in the chicken's water bucket!

Which reminds me... didn't he swim a ridiculously long distance in KQ3 or am I mixing my Sierra games? If he did... where the hell did he learn to swim? I can't imagine Manannan taking him for long walks on the beach

Well, he did sneak out frequently while Manannan went on his little excursions. Perhaps he learned how to swim in small bursts from sneaking out? Who knows...

[Lambonius]

Which reminds me... didn't he swim a ridiculously long distance in KQ3 or am I mixing my Sierra games? If he did... where the hell did he learn to swim? I can't imagine Manannan taking him for long walks on the beach

He swims ashore from the Pirate ship, but it's only a screen or two if you play it correctly and wait til "land ho" before casting the sleep spell. 

[Fierce Deity]

Which reminds me... didn't he swim a ridiculously long distance in KQ3 or am I mixing my Sierra games?

I thought he swam from the pirate ship to the nearest shore. He also was swimming from far out in the ocean if I remember correctly. Maybe he knew how to swim, but ever since he acquired his rightful place as the Prince of Daventry, he forgot how to swim. Or perhaps slave clothes are easier to swim in, than his royal getup.

[Enchantermon]

Not from far out; as Lambonius said, it's only one screen.

[Fierce Deity]

Not from far out; as Lambonius said, it's only one screen.

I believe it was two screens, and two screens are relatively larger in comparison to the few feet that he treads unto his abyssal death in KQ6.   

[Lambonius]

Not from far out; as Lambonius said, it's only one screen.

I believe it was two screens, and two screens are relatively larger in comparison to the few feet that he treads unto his abyssal death in KQ6.   

Not because he's a bad swimmer though.  It's pretty strongly implied in KQ6 that the Green Isles' ocean currents/rip tides are magically enhanced by Alhazared's Shamir to make them extra treacherous.  I'm content to accept that without Alhazared ordering Shamir to cause the tides to be deadly, characters like Graham are able to wade out a bit further in the water in certain areas.

[Cez]

I'm still wondering where and when he learned to swim