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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #40 on: April 07, 2007, 02:09:57 AM »
However, Shadrack could be Morgeilen's wizard name, like the Unspeakable Name being the wizard name of Tom Riddle.

Shade would then be Shadrack's other nickname, much like how Jollo refers to Alexander as just Alex.
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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2007, 11:30:51 AM »
Just wondering, so far there has been speculation that nearly all the KQ villains were part of the BCS. That includes Lolotte, Malicia.

I would just like to point out that according to the timeline Lolotte is dead and that at the end of KGVII, Malicia was turned into a baby. And if indeed this game takes place only 2 years or so after both KQVII and MoE that would make her about 2 or 3, so it really wouldn't make since that she would be involved. Don't really know about Hagatha, we'll have to see.

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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #42 on: April 09, 2007, 06:43:42 PM »
Of course, Malicia could have been a member before she was turned into an infant by Rosella at the end of VII. I guess we'll never really know, unless IX introduces some new information on old villains.
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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #43 on: April 09, 2007, 09:46:05 PM »
I think she was a member of the BCS, but I doubt she'll be of much harm to us now. :P I'm willing to bet we'll get a LOT of information on old villains. Do any of the other crazy fangirls/boys (Or a team member, I guess, whoever gets here first XD) remember how many pages the script is? It's...a lot.  :P


EDIT: AHA! The script is about 1500 pages (Thank you, Cesar. XD)

On a different note, someone needs to make the chat logs easier to find. I only accidentally looked on the chat page. :P Yes, it makes sense, but that doesn't mean anyone can find them! :P

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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #44 on: April 09, 2007, 10:36:47 PM »
1500-2000 are the figures I remember...

...BUT... I doubt that Malicia was a member of BCS... the only members confirmed by creator comment or the games themselves are Manannan, Mordack, Alhazred, and Shadrack.

To me, it always seemed that something of a pattern was forming: both of Rosella's villains had been evil fairies and both of Alexander's villains had been members of the BCS. On top of that, Graham's enemy in KQ5 was also a member of BCS...

So, maybe if KQ hadn't changed directions with MOE, we would have seen a KQ 8 with Graham and Alexander going up against Shadrack...

Note: ...when I had "KQ 8" (without the space) above... it was altered to MoE  :( How am I to discuss hypothetical KQ 8's if I must exist in the shadow of MoE?  :'( ... a shadow so powerful to have in fact been bestowed a prejudicial filter  :(
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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #45 on: April 09, 2007, 10:40:35 PM »
Hypothetical ideal 8th games in the KQ series could be referred to as a "good sequel, unlike MoE." :P

And you must admit, the filter does much more good than harm. XP

And, to me, Malicia seemed like too much of a diva to be working alone. I mean, what's the fun of doing evil if the only person who admires you for it is your "adorable" dog? :P To me, it seems she'd want a support club behind her. :P Well, as supportive as you can get from a group of complete and total meaniehs.
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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #46 on: April 12, 2007, 03:56:40 PM »
Well one word of note, at least in the official games, Manannan was never confirmed to be part of the Black Cloak Society. He's never mentioned in the same discussions that mention the society.

In those discussions only three were ever specifically tied together as a group.

Although since he is a brother of a black cloak member, I can see where some of the fan teams such KQ2 remake, and TSL might make that connection.

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"So, maybe if KQ hadn't changed directions with MOE, we would have seen a KQ 8 with Graham and Alexander going up against Shadrack..."

Probably not, Shadrack was a Jane Jensenism, and had very little input from Roberta (not enough that Roberta remembered much of that information).

So unless Jane had a chance to return to the series (which was apparently unlikely with her own game successes), Shadrack would have still vanished into obscurity, unless a new official game designer went back through the games and was paying attention.
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